Pinnacle PCTV no right sound

I'm having a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card since the upgrade to
Debian etch
It can't correctly tune the ??sound??

Star by the first I have this Card (as reconigzed by lspci):

00:0e.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Brooktree Corporation Bt878
Video Capture [109e:036e] (rev 11)
Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo
receiver) [11bd:0012]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at da000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

00:0e.1 Multimedia controller [0480]: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio
Capture [109e:0878] (rev 11)
Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo
receiver, audio section) [11bd:0012]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at da001000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

that my card don't have radio no stereo (I think an empty space in
the card means some chips faulting)
Well since upgrade to etch (and udev) the perfectly working card with
kernel 2.6.8 does not output sound with kernel 2.6.16 2.6.18 nor
2.6.21. It's not that there is no sound output. You can sense when the
channel is untuned (mute sound) and when is tuned (white noise) and the
snd-bt878 (not that I think that it's needed for basic sound output)
doesn't recognize the card. I would downgrade to kernel 2.6.8 but udev
with etch needs 2.6.15.
there is any way paramm or any thing to get the card recognized and
sounding?
what is the version of bttv with kernel 2.6.8 and how can I compile for
my new kernel?

this is the dmesg meaning output :

hdd: ATAPI 40X CD-RM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
Linux video capture interface: v2.00
bttv: driver version 0.9.17 loaded
bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0e.0[A] -Link [LNKB] -GSI 5 (level, low)
-IRQ 5
bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:00:0e.0, irq: 5, latency: 32, mmio: 0xda000000
bttv0: detected: Pinnacle PCTV [card=39], PCI subsystem ID is 11bd:0012
bttv0: using: Pinnacle PCTV Studio/Rave [card=39,autodetected]
bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00ffffff [init]
bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80 not found
bttv0: pinnacle/mt: id=1 info="PAL / mono" radio=no
bttv0: using tuner=33
bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80 not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0 not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a not found
tuner 1-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (bt878 #0 [sw])
tda9887 1-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner)
tuner 1-0060: Chip ID is not zero. It is not a TEA5767
tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (bt878 #0 [sw])
tuner 1-0060: microtune: companycode=4d54 part=04 rev=04
tuner 1-0060: microtune MT2032 found, K
tuner 1-0060: microtune: companycode=4d54 part=04 rev=04
tuner 1-0060: microtune MT2032 found, K
bttv0: registered device video0
bttv0: registered device vbi0
bttv0: PLL: 28636363 =35468950 ok
input: ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input2
bt878: AUDI driver version 0.0.0 loaded
bt878: Bt878 AUDI function found (0).
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0e.1[A] -Link [LNKB] -GSI 5 (level, low)
-IRQ 5
bt878_probe: card id=[0x1211bd], Unknown card.
Exiting
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:0e.1 disabled
bt878: probe of 0000:00:0e.1 failed with error -22
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -Link [LNKD] -GSI 10 (level,
low) -IRQ 10
unknown card 0x878-0x11bd:0x12, using default rate 32000
please mail id, board name, and, if it works, the correct digital_rate
option to <alsa-devel (AT) lists (DOT) sf.net>
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0e.1[A] -Link [LNKB] -GSI 5 (level, low)
-IRQ 5
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised:
dm-devel (AT) redhat (DOT) com


The card is recognized at first correctly (at list that's how it works
in other Ses) Pinnacle PCTV and mt2032 but then the sound chips go on
strike
Some numbers on the card:
EMPTYV-51013170-1.4A

conenxant / fusion 878A / 25878-13

barcode 203560610024805408

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Friday 29 June 2007 11:22, Jorge xxxxx wrote:
I'm having a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card since the upgrade to
Debian etch
It can't correctly tune the ??sound??
>
Star by the first I have this Card (as reconigzed by lspci):
>
00:0e.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Brooktree Corporation Bt878
Video Capture [109e:036e] (rev 11)
Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo
receiver) [11bd:0012]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at da000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
>
00:0e.1 Multimedia controller [0480]: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio
Capture [109e:0878] (rev 11)
Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo
receiver, audio section) [11bd:0012]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at da001000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
>
that my card don't have radio no stereo (I think an empty space in
the card means some chips faulting)
Well since upgrade to etch (and udev) the perfectly working card with
kernel 2.6.8 does not output sound with kernel 2.6.16 2.6.18 nor
2.6.21. It's not that there is no sound output. You can sense when the
channel is untuned (mute sound) and when is tuned (white noise) and the
snd-bt878 (not that I think that it's needed for basic sound output)
doesn't recognize the card. I would downgrade to kernel 2.6.8 but udev
with etch needs 2.6.15.
there is any way paramm or any thing to get the card recognized and
sounding?

I normally use kernel 2.6.8 with my Etch, although I also have the 2.6.17 one.
Today trying to help someone with a different problem, I booted up with the
2.6.17 one. Trying xawtv, no sound, only white noise, but no problems with
the 2.6.8 kernel.

My card is a Hauppauge Win TV Express that also uses the conexant fusion 878a
chipset. I have to set options for tda9887 in /etc/modutils/sound to get the
sound working with the 2.6.8 kernel.

With the same problem today with the 2.6.17 kernel that uses udev, I've added
the same options to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (at the bottom of the file),
and now xawtv after a reboot, is producing sound again.

If you already have options set for tda9887 with the 2.6.8 kernel
in /etc/modutils/sound, these same options will be ok, if you add them
to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base for the 2.6.17 kernel.

for kernel versions 2.6.18, and later, tda9887 is now integrated into the
tuner module, and the options, if you have any set for tda9887, should now be
applied to the tuner module, as per.
options tuner <options>

I won't even mention the options I am using for my Hauppauge card, as I
mentioned them before for someone with a Pinnacle card, and I don't know if
it's the same card as yours, but my options would do a "power off" on the
Pinnacle card, as was quickly pointed out to me from someone on the list.

to you.

Nigel.

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Nigel Henry :
Friday 29 June 2007 11:22, Jorge xxxxx wrote:

>I'm having a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card since the upgrade to
>Debian etch
>It can't correctly tune the ??sound??
>>
>Star by the first I have this Card (as reconigzed by lspci):
>>
>00:0e.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Brooktree Corporation Bt878
>Video Capture [109e:036e] (rev 11)
>Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo
>receiver) [11bd:0012]
>Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
>Memory at da000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
>Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
>Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
>>
>00:0e.1 Multimedia controller [0480]: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio
>Capture [109e:0878] (rev 11)
>Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV pro (TV + FM stereo
>receiver, audio section) [11bd:0012]
>Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
>Memory at da001000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
>Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
>Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
>>
>that my card don't have radio no stereo (I think an empty space in
>the card means some chips faulting)
>Well since upgrade to etch (and udev) the perfectly working card with
>kernel 2.6.8 does not output sound with kernel 2.6.16 2.6.18 nor
>2.6.21. It's not that there is no sound output. You can sense when the
>channel is untuned (mute sound) and when is tuned (white noise) and the
>snd-bt878 (not that I think that it's needed for basic sound output)
>doesn't recognize the card. I would downgrade to kernel 2.6.8 but udev
>with etch needs 2.6.15.
>there is any way paramm or any thing to get the card recognized and
>sounding?
>
>
I normally use kernel 2.6.8 with my Etch, although I also have the 2.6.17 one.
Today trying to help someone with a different problem, I booted up with the
2.6.17 one. Trying xawtv, no sound, only white noise, but no problems with
the 2.6.8 kernel.
>
My card is a Hauppauge Win TV Express that also uses the conexant fusion 878a
chipset. I have to set options for tda9887 in /etc/modutils/sound to get the
sound working with the 2.6.8 kernel.
>
With the same problem today with the 2.6.17 kernel that uses udev, I've added
the same options to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (at the bottom of the file),
and now xawtv after a reboot, is producing sound again.
>
If you already have options set for tda9887 with the 2.6.8 kernel
in /etc/modutils/sound, these same options will be ok, if you add them
to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base for the 2.6.17 kernel.
>
for kernel versions 2.6.18, and later, tda9887 is now integrated into the
tuner module, and the options, if you have any set for tda9887, should now be
applied to the tuner module, as per.
options tuner <options>
>
I won't even mention the options I am using for my Hauppauge card, as I
mentioned them before for someone with a Pinnacle card, and I don't know if
it's the same card as yours, but my options would do a "power off" on the
Pinnacle card, as was quickly pointed out to me from someone on the list.
>
to you.
>
Nigel.
>
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Thanks I haven't any options set before but I will search in the
archives that options and try them

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Monday 02 July 2007 11:36, Jorge xxxxx wrote:
Nigel Henry :
Friday 29 June 2007 11:22, Jorge xxxxx wrote:
>I'm having a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card since the upgrade to
>Debian etch
>It can't correctly tune the ??sound??

>that my card don't have radio no stereo (I think an empty space in
>the card means some chips faulting)
>Well since upgrade to etch (and udev) the perfectly working card with
>kernel 2.6.8 does not output sound with kernel 2.6.16 2.6.18 nor
>2.6.21. It's not that there is no sound output. You can sense when the
>channel is untuned (mute sound) and when is tuned (white noise) and the
>snd-bt878 (not that I think that it's needed for basic sound output)
>doesn't recognize the card. I would downgrade to kernel 2.6.8 but udev
>with etch needs 2.6.15.
>there is any way paramm or any thing to get the card recognized and
>sounding?

<big snip of my response>
>
Nigel.

Thanks I haven't any options set before but I will search in the
archives that options and try them

Hi Jorge. I've spent a lot of today trying to find options for the mt2032
tuner. 10 pages of Google have only turned up ancient stuff, and I can't find
anything on the v4l wiki. There's a bit about the card, but that's all.

I think this may just be a problem with Etch kernels that are using udev, as I
had a similar problem. As I've said. I had to set some options to get my
Hauppauge card working with Sarge, and put the options
in /etc/modutils/sound. Booting with the 2.6.8 kernel had the card working ok
wusing Xawtv. I upgraded Sarge to Etch. The 2.6.8 kernel still works ok with
the TV card, but the 2.6.17 kernel gives me picture, but only white noise for
the sound, so next I add the same options to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.
Reboot with the 2.6.17 kernel, and now the TV card is ok again, both picture,
and sound.

As you say that you didn't have to set any options to get the Pinnacle PCTV
Pro card working, and it worked ok with the 2.6.8 kernel, I'm not sure what
to suggest.

I think I would boot up Etch, then su to root in a terminal, and run.
modprobe -r bttv (this should remove all modules associated with bttv)

Then run: modprobe bttv (this will reload the modules, and just maybe, as
udev has already run, may resolve the problem).

I'm not sure what else to suggest.

Nigel.








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Am Montag, den 02.07.2007, 19:38 +0200 schrieb Nigel Henry:
Monday 02 July 2007 11:36, Jorge xxxxx wrote:
Nigel Henry ³:
Friday 29 June 2007 11:22, Jorge xxxxx wrote:
>I'm having a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card since the upgrade to
>Debian etch
>It can't correctly tune the ??sound??

>that my card don't have radio no stereo (I think an empty space in
>the card means some chips faulting)
>Well since upgrade to etch (and udev) the perfectly working card with
>kernel 2.6.8 does not output sound with kernel 2.6.16 2.6.18 nor
>2.6.21. It's not that there is no sound output. You can sense when the
>channel is untuned (mute sound) and when is tuned (white noise) and the
>snd-bt878 (not that I think that it's needed for basic sound output)
>doesn't recognize the card. I would downgrade to kernel 2.6.8 but udev
>with etch needs 2.6.15.
>there is any way paramm or any thing to get the card recognized and
>sounding?

<big snip of my response>
>
Nigel.

Thanks I haven't any options set before but I will search in the
archives that options and try them

Hi Jorge. I've spent a lot of today trying to find options for the mt2032
tuner. 10 pages of Google have only turned up ancient stuff, and I can't find
anything on the v4l wiki. There's a bit about the card, but that's all.

I think this may just be a problem with Etch kernels that are using udev, as I
had a similar problem. As I've said. I had to set some options to get my
Hauppauge card working with Sarge, and put the options
in /etc/modutils/sound. Booting with the 2.6.8 kernel had the card working ok
wusing Xawtv. I upgraded Sarge to Etch. The 2.6.8 kernel still works ok with
the TV card, but the 2.6.17 kernel gives me picture, but only white noise for
the sound, so next I add the same options to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.
Reboot with the 2.6.17 kernel, and now the TV card is ok again, both picture,
and sound.

As you say that you didn't have to set any options to get the Pinnacle PCTV
Pro card working, and it worked ok with the 2.6.8 kernel, I'm not sure what
to suggest.

I think I would boot up Etch, then su to root in a terminal, and run.
modprobe -r bttv (this should remove all modules associated with bttv)

Then run: modprobe bttv (this will reload the modules, and just maybe, as
udev has already run, may resolve the problem).

I'm not sure what else to suggest.

Nigel.


Hi,

without trying to track code changes since 2.6.8, there have been quite
some, hopefully that should be easy to debug.

As far I know that card doesn't make use of tvaudio and msp32xx, so we
expect only mono TV sound.

Reload the tda9887 module on 2.6.8 with the debug=2 option and let us
see what is printed out by the tda988x when there is sound.

Do the same with 2.6.21, in that case with tuner debug=2, since the
tda9887 module is integrated in the tuner module. ("modinfo tuner")

Jorge, first of all let us know which TV standard you are using or in
which country you are located.

Without further investigations, possible reasons are, you need to set
the excact PAL subnorm, like options tuner pal=i or have to do that from
an v4l2 capable application. Another reason might be that the
tda9887/tuner module needs option intercarrier=1 and this was lost.
you have some NICAM stereo, which the card can't handle and you must
force MN to get at least the first soundcarrier.

Nigel, the only problematic option with this sort of cards is
tda9887/tuner port2=0. That will turn of standard setting and tuning,
but don't cause any damage. It comes back with port2=1. (default)

Cheers,
Hermann

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hermann pitton ³:
Am Montag, den 02.07.2007, 19:38 +0200 schrieb Nigel Henry:

>Monday 02 July 2007 11:36, Jorge xxxxx wrote:
>
Nigel Henry ³:

Friday 29 June 2007 11:22, Jorge xxxxx wrote:

I'm having a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card since the upgrade to
Debian etch
It can't correctly tune the ??sound??

that my card don't have radio no stereo (I think an empty space in
the card means some chips faulting)
Well since upgrade to etch (and udev) the perfectly working card with
kernel 2.6.8 does not output sound with kernel 2.6.16 2.6.18 nor
2.6.21. It's not that there is no sound output. You can sense when the
channel is untuned (mute sound) and when is tuned (white noise) and the
snd-bt878 (not that I think that it's needed for basic sound output)
doesn't recognize the card. I would downgrade to kernel 2.6.8 but udev
with etch needs 2.6.15.
there is any way paramm or any thing to get the card recognized and
sounding?
>I think this may just be a problem with Etch kernels that are using udev, as I
>had a similar problem. As I've said. I had to set some options to get my
>Hauppauge card working with Sarge, and put the options
>in /etc/modutils/sound. Booting with the 2.6.8 kernel had the card working ok
>wusing Xawtv. I upgraded Sarge to Etch. The 2.6.8 kernel still works ok with
>the TV card, but the 2.6.17 kernel gives me picture, but only white noise for
>the sound, so next I add the same options to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.
>Reboot with the 2.6.17 kernel, and now the TV card is ok again, both picture,
>and sound.
>
The problem is not with udev perse but the fact that udev needs 2.6.15
and doesn't like 2.6.8 so the devices doesn't came up with the kernels
before that(2.6.15)
>As you say that you didn't have to set any options to get the Pinnacle PCTV
>Pro card working, and it worked ok with the 2.6.8 kernel, I'm not sure what
>to suggest.
>>
>I think I would boot up Etch, then su to root in a terminal, and run.
>modprobe -r bttv (this should remove all modules associated with bttv)
>>
>Then run: modprobe bttv (this will reload the modules, and just maybe, as
>udev has already run, may resolve the problem).
>>
>I'm not sure what else to suggest.
>>
>Nigel.
>>
>
>
Hi,
>
without trying to track code changes since 2.6.8, there have been quite
some, hopefully that should be easy to debug.
>
As far I know that card doesn't make use of tvaudio and msp32xx, so we
expect only mono TV sound.
>
Reload the tda9887 module on 2.6.8 with the debug=2 option and let us
see what is printed out by the tda988x when there is sound.
>
Do the same with 2.6.21, in that case with tuner debug=2, since the
tda9887 module is integrated in the tuner module. ("modinfo tuner")
>

I'm trying this first thing when I get 2.6.8 working again.Perhaps in
other distro I'll see. I'll see for 2.6.21 debug as soon as I arrive home
Jorge, first of all let us know which TV standard you are using or in
which country you are located.
>
Without further investigations, possible reasons are, you need to set
the excact PAL subnorm, like options tuner pal=i or have to do that from
an v4l2 capable application. Another reason might be that the
tda9887/tuner module needs option intercarrier=1 and this was lost.
you have some NICAM stereo, which the card can't handle and you must
force MN to get at least the first soundcarrier.
>
Nigel, the only problematic option with this sort of cards is
tda9887/tuner port2=0. That will turn of standard setting and tuning,
but don't cause any damage. It comes back with port2=1. (default)
>


the norm is PAL B/G (I put the option as pal=B or pal=G I'm almost sure
it doesn't mind). no change.
Intercarrier ?? don't know anything about it. The card is mono and
that's it. PCTV pro seemed too expensive when I went to the shop so
ten bucks cheaper is this card that is the same but stripped down, big
error on my side. It's the same card with some chips (the msp34xx
probably)omitted so only mono sound no radio.

It's explained anywhere the values of the params and their meanings?


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Hello!

Am Mittwoch, den 04.07.2007, 10:35 +0100 schrieb Jorge xxxxx:
hermann pitton ³:
Am Montag, den 02.07.2007, 19:38 +0200 schrieb Nigel Henry:

>Monday 02 July 2007 11:36, Jorge xxxxx wrote:
>
Nigel Henry ³:

Friday 29 June 2007 11:22, Jorge xxxxx wrote:

I'm having a problem with my Pinnacle PCTV card since the upgrade to
Debian etch
It can't correctly tune the ??sound??

that my card don't have radio no stereo (I think an empty space in
the card means some chips faulting)
Well since upgrade to etch (and udev) the perfectly working card with
kernel 2.6.8 does not output sound with kernel 2.6.16 2.6.18 nor
2.6.21. It's not that there is no sound output. You can sense when the
channel is untuned (mute sound) and when is tuned (white noise) and the
snd-bt878 (not that I think that it's needed for basic sound output)
doesn't recognize the card. I would downgrade to kernel 2.6.8 but udev
with etch needs 2.6.15.
there is any way paramm or any thing to get the card recognized and
sounding?
>I think this may just be a problem with Etch kernels that are using udev, as I
>had a similar problem. As I've said. I had to set some options to get my
>Hauppauge card working with Sarge, and put the options
>in /etc/modutils/sound. Booting with the 2.6.8 kernel had the card working ok
>wusing Xawtv. I upgraded Sarge to Etch. The 2.6.8 kernel still works ok with
>the TV card, but the 2.6.17 kernel gives me picture, but only white noise for
>the sound, so next I add the same options to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.
>Reboot with the 2.6.17 kernel, and now the TV card is ok again, both picture,
>and sound.
>
The problem is not with udev perse but the fact that udev needs 2.6.15
and doesn't like 2.6.8 so the devices doesn't came up with the kernels
before that(2.6.15)
>As you say that you didn't have to set any options to get the Pinnacle PCTV
>Pro card working, and it worked ok with the 2.6.8 kernel, I'm not sure what
>to suggest.
>>
>I think I would boot up Etch, then su to root in a terminal, and run.
>modprobe -r bttv (this should remove all modules associated with bttv)
>>
>Then run: modprobe bttv (this will reload the modules, and just maybe, as
>udev has already run, may resolve the problem).
>>
>I'm not sure what else to suggest.
>>
>Nigel.
>>
>
>
Hi,
>
without trying to track code changes since 2.6.8, there have been quite
some, hopefully that should be easy to debug.
>
As far I know that card doesn't make use of tvaudio and msp32xx, so we
expect only mono TV sound.
>
Reload the tda9887 module on 2.6.8 with the debug=2 option and let us
see what is printed out by the tda988x when there is sound.
>
Do the same with 2.6.21, in that case with tuner debug=2, since the
tda9887 module is integrated in the tuner module. ("modinfo tuner")
>

I'm trying this first thing when I get 2.6.8 working again.Perhaps in
other distro I'll see. I'll see for 2.6.21 debug as soon as I arrive home
Jorge, first of all let us know which TV standard you are using or in
which country you are located.
>
Without further investigations, possible reasons are, you need to set
the excact PAL subnorm, like options tuner pal=i or have to do that from
an v4l2 capable application. Another reason might be that the
tda9887/tuner module needs option intercarrier=1 and this was lost.
you have some NICAM stereo, which the card can't handle and you must
force MN to get at least the first soundcarrier.

All mono directly from the tuner, Pal subnorms are handled by the tuner,
not yet by bttv.

Nigel, the only problematic option with this sort of cards is
tda9887/tuner port2=0. That will turn of standard setting and tuning,
but don't cause any damage. It comes back with port2=1. (default)
>


the norm is PAL B/G (I put the option as pal=B or pal=G I'm almost sure
it doesn't mind). no change.

Yes, K.

Intercarrier ?? don't know anything about it. The card is mono and
that's it. PCTV pro seemed too expensive when I went to the shop so
ten bucks cheaper is this card that is the same but stripped down, big
error on my side. It's the same card with some chips (the msp34xx
probably)omitted so only mono sound no radio.

It's explained anywhere the values of the params and their meanings?

The options and their meanings vary from tuner to tuner, it depends on
SAW filter equipment and external gain control circuitry connected to
the ports or they are even used for other switching.

I'm quite sure that everything should be K with the tuner detection
after looking it up in bttv-cards.c. I also have no doubts that the
tda9887 is configured to Intercarrier demodulation versus
QuasiSplitSound demodulation as it should be for that one. You might
check with tuner debug=2.
Sorry, to force Intercarrier it was on tda9887 and is now on tuner
option "qss=0". (not intercarrier=1, is gone)

Looking around, some people assume that the problem became visible after
this bt878 DVB patch.


Several times here on the list and on google.
%22Unknown+card.%22

If this is the case, that recent patch might go in the right direction.


I'm not yet through, but it seems you get the bttv audio device
disabled, because your card is in a test for risc dma usage for bttv DVB
and should not be there.
(bt878.c)

Please try a current mercurial master repo snapshot.
make
make install
make rmmod
modprobe bttv

lsmod |grep bt878 still there? Then

make xconfig/menuconfig

Disable bttv DVB support or the whole DVB.

The same as above once more.
Does audio now work again?

Cheers,
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[snip]

I'm not yet through, but it seems you get the bttv audio device
disabled, because your card is in a test for risc dma usage for bttv DVB
and should not be there.
(bt878.c)

Please try a current mercurial master repo snapshot.
make
make install
make rmmod
modprobe bttv

lsmod |grep bt878 still there? Then

make xconfig/menuconfig

Disable bttv DVB support or the whole DVB.

The same as above once more.
Does audio now work again?

Despite of tuner, you can have a quicker test for the other end like

"modprobe -vr dvb-bt8xx"

Move the /
folder to some place out of reach and

"depmod -a"
"modprobe -v bttv"

Cheers,
Hermann


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>I'm not yet through, but it seems you get the bttv audio device
>disabled, because your card is in a test for risc dma usage for bttv DVB
>and should not be there.
>(bt878.c)
>>
>Please try a current mercurial master repo snapshot.
>make
>make install
>make rmmod
>modprobe bttv
>>
>lsmod |grep bt878 still there? Then
>>
>make xconfig/menuconfig
>>
>Disable bttv DVB support or the whole DVB.
>>
>The same as above once more.
>Does audio now work again?
>
>
Despite of tuner, you can have a quicker test for the other end like
>
"modprobe -vr dvb-bt8xx"
>
Move the /
folder to some place out of reach and
>
"depmod -a"
"modprobe -v bttv"
>
Cheers,
Hermann
I tryed debug=2 but didn't get any additional output. couldn't find a
distro at home that goes with 2.6.8 (sarge is quite old the same day
etch came up)

As I see from the links and some more I've found is some incompatibility
between the 878-dvb cards and the 878-analogue-cards (mine is analogue)
so I'll try the approach you suggest first. and then I found this
. To try this
I plan to load tuner through /etc/modules Will this work ( will load
first tuner than bttv?).

I'm downloading the mercurial repo and will try it but the workload as
rised again and will not have too much time to keep trying so probably
I'll take time in responding again

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Am Freitag, den 06.07.2007, 10:27 +0100 schrieb Jorge xxxxx:
hermann pitton ³:
[snip]

>I'm not yet through, but it seems you get the bttv audio device
>disabled, because your card is in a test for risc dma usage for bttv DVB
>and should not be there.
>(bt878.c)
>>
>Please try a current mercurial master repo snapshot.
>make
>make install
>make rmmod
>modprobe bttv
>>
>lsmod |grep bt878 still there? Then
>>
>make xconfig/menuconfig
>>
>Disable bttv DVB support or the whole DVB.
>>
>The same as above once more.
>Does audio now work again?
>
>
Despite of tuner, you can have a quicker test for the other end like
>
"modprobe -vr dvb-bt8xx"
>
Move the /
folder to some place out of reach and
>
"depmod -a"
"modprobe -v bttv"
>

I tryed debug=2 but didn't get any additional output. couldn't find a
distro at home that goes with 2.6.8 (sarge is quite old the same day
etch came up)

Hmm, debug no output would be a bug.
"echo 2 /"
After switching to another channel or standard you should have debug
output in "dmesg". (thought you had still some 2.6.8, happened later
anyway)

As I see from the links and some more I've found is some incompatibility
between the 878-dvb cards and the 878-analogue-cards (mine is analogue)
so I'll try the approach you suggest first. and then I found this
. To try this
I plan to load tuner through /etc/modules Will this work ( will load
first tuner than bttv?).

You should be able to do it with "modprobe -vr * and modprobe -v *.
If anything sneaks in from your /etc/modprobe.conf or related you should
see it.

I'm downloading the mercurial repo and will try it but the workload as
rised again and will not have too much time to keep trying so probably
I'll take time in responding again

Didn't spend more time either yet, but would be nice if you can inform
us if you have a workaround for mercurial or 2.6.21.

Thanks,
Hermann




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hermann pitton ³:
m Freitag, den 06.07.2007, 10:27 +0100 schrieb Jorge xxxxx:


>As I see from the links and some more I've found is some incompatibility
>between the 878-dvb cards and the 878-analogue-cards (mine is analogue)
>so I'll try the approach you suggest first. and then I found this
>. To try this
>I plan to load tuner through /etc/modules Will this work ( will load
>first tuner than bttv?).
>
>
You should be able to do it with "modprobe -vr * and modprobe -v *.
If anything sneaks in from your /etc/modprobe.conf or related you should
see it.
>

>I'm downloading the mercurial repo and will try it but the workload as
>rised again and will not have too much time to keep trying so probably
>I'll take time in responding again
>
>
Didn't spend more time either yet, but would be nice if you can inform
us if you have a workaround for mercurial or 2.6.21.
>
Thanks,
Hermann
>

I haven't time for compiling the mercurial but manage to get the card
working from the link above. First backlisting bt878 which was the
module that didn't recognize the card in the audio part and turned it
down ( I still don't know if it is an audio driver for oss I mean
parallel to snd-bt87x in alsa). then it keep whitout working so as
recomended in the link unload bttv & tuner and reloaded stricly tuner
first and bttv last. then it started working and debug output started
flodding ( I haven't keep any, it seemed normal).
I just have tried one time so still has to try more things as loading
orden at boot but have no time will keep trying when I have more time.

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Hi Jorge,

Am Montag, den 09.07.2007, 17:21 +0200 schrieb Jorge xxxxx:
hermann pitton ³:
m Freitag, den 06.07.2007, 10:27 +0100 schrieb Jorge xxxxx:


>As I see from the links and some more I've found is some incompatibility
>between the 878-dvb cards and the 878-analogue-cards (mine is analogue)
>so I'll try the approach you suggest first. and then I found this
>. To try this
>I plan to load tuner through /etc/modules Will this work ( will load
>first tuner than bttv?).
>
>
You should be able to do it with "modprobe -vr * and modprobe -v *.
If anything sneaks in from your /etc/modprobe.conf or related you should
see it.
>

>I'm downloading the mercurial repo and will try it but the workload as
>rised again and will not have too much time to keep trying so probably
>I'll take time in responding again
>
>
Didn't spend more time either yet, but would be nice if you can inform
us if you have a workaround for mercurial or 2.6.21.
>
Thanks,
Hermann
>

I haven't time for compiling the mercurial but manage to get the card
working from the link above. First backlisting bt878 which was the
module that didn't recognize the card in the audio part and turned it
down ( I still don't know if it is an audio driver for oss I mean
parallel to snd-bt87x in alsa). then it keep whitout working so as
recomended in the link unload bttv & tuner and reloaded stricly tuner
first and bttv last. then it started working and debug output started
flodding ( I haven't keep any, it seemed normal).
I just have tried one time so still has to try more things as loading
orden at boot but have no time will keep trying when I have more time.

thanks! Good, there is a workaround and the card is not rendered to be
unusable.

The bt878 uses the audio dma risc engine, similar like btaudio and
snd_bt87x, to shuffle TS data over the PCI bus to the system memory on
bt878/9 DVB cards. If not using it too, like when using Mono from tuner
to analog audio out to the sound card, there should not be extra
trouble, just wanted it away for debugging.

Then now, since you have a picture in all cases and can switch channels
and TV standards, which means the tda9885 is mostly functional, it seems
to boil down to, that the qss=0 (set to Intercarrier demodulation) in
the detection routine of the cards dosn't come through currently for
this one and likely the NTSC mono version too.

You might be able to verify this with the already recommended methods.

Cheers,
Hermann


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Hi,

I have a similar problem with same HW (Pinnacle PCTV analog card). I have tried mythbuntu and knoppmyth and the problem of no audio persists.

When I tried to unload the bttv module it gives me a Fatal error saying that he module is in use.

Can send the output of dmesg if it helps.

Thanks in advance.
-Manoj

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