RFC - Network config wizard for Linux

Hi All,

I am planning to do a project to develop a network configuration
wizard for Linux.

It will have a wizard like interface that aims to become a single
place for a newbie user to easily set ALL kinds of network connections
(Dial-up, xDSL, Cable, LAN, wlan) on Linux.

To get an idea of what it would look like, pls have a look at some
mockup screenshots explaining the flowchart in different cases:
*checkout*/

You can also check this document explaining the project in greater detail:
*checkout*/

Any comments, suggestions, foreseen problems with the idea and any
help with design and development is most welcome.

Thanks and Regards,
Vivek

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Vivek Rai wrote:
Hi All,

I am planning to do a project to develop a network configuration
wizard for Linux.

It will have a wizard like interface that aims to become a single
place for a newbie user to easily set ALL kinds of network connections
(Dial-up, xDSL, Cable, LAN, wlan) on Linux.

To get an idea of what it would look like, pls have a look at some
mockup screenshots explaining the flowchart in different cases:
*checkout*/

You can also check this document explaining the project in greater detail:
*checkout*/

Any comments, suggestions, foreseen problems with the idea and any
help with design and development is most welcome.

I think you should contact people from KDE Guidance project.
They aim at creating administration tools for KDE and their tools are
already part of Kubuntu.
Page:

There is also set of networking tools Knetworkconf.
It is already in kdeadmin module.
Page:

HTH

Krzysztof Lichota





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Hello Vivek,

Saturday 20 May 2006 02:59, Vivek Rai wrote:
I am planning to do a project to develop a network configuration
wizard for Linux.

Pardus project also seems to have a nice network configurator



Regards,
Rajeev J Sebastian

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Rajeev J Sebastian wrote:
Hello Vivek,

Saturday 20 May 2006 02:59, Vivek Rai wrote:
>I am planning to do a project to develop a network configuration
>wizard for Linux.

Pardus project also seems to have a nice network configurator



There is also NetworkManager and its KDE frontend KNetworkManager, which
seems to be the integrated solution (networking which "Just Works") and
seems to be default in next version of Ubuntu and is already used by
Suse and, I guess, Fedora.



Krzysztof Lichota




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Friday 19 May 2006 23:29, Vivek Rai wrote:
It will have a wizard like interface that aims to become a single
place for a newbie user to easily set ALL kinds of network connections
(Dial-up, xDSL, Cable, LAN, wlan) on Linux.

Some of us out there stil use isdn, and there is no gui for configuration :-(

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Rajeev J Sebastian wrote:
Pardus project also seems to have a nice network configurator
>

>
There is also NetworkManager and its KDE frontend KNetworkManager, which
seems to be the integrated solution (networking which "Just Works") and
seems to be default in next version of Ubuntu and is already used by
Suse and, I guess, Fedora.
>

>
Krzysztof Lichota

Hi Rajeev, Krzysztof

Thanks a lot for the links.

I have downloaded both of these and trying to get them working.

The Pardus one looks very promising, but also appears to be tightly
related and dependent on some of their other config tools.

The NetworkManager based approach is certainly much more advanced way
of implementing these ideas, it seems to be using dbus and HAL, and is
also designed to be "distro-agnostic".

Let me play around with these, and see if my proposed project is
really needed after all!

Cheers,
Vivek

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>
Net-KGA is just a frontend for our configuration manager called CMAR, so
without CMAR and its scripts it will useless for you.
>
But if you want to test or use, you can use CMAR with any distro if python
exists :P;
>
1. Checkout CMAR, (svn co )
2. Go into comar directory (cd path/comar/comar/)
3. Install CMAR (scons install prefix=/)
4. Install CMAR's Python Api (cd /api && python setup.py install)
5. Checkout Net-KGA and install (svn co
&& cd path/net-kga && pyton
setup.py install) <-- PyQT/PyKDE and PyKDExtensions needed for net-kga
6. Run CMAR Daemon (comard)
7. Register needed comar scripts;
>
* For wireless communication;
wget

hav register System.Package `pwd/link.py`
>
* For wired one;
wget

hav register System.Package `pwd/link.py`
>
That's all, now u can use net-kga hopefully without a problem, if any further
help needed please contact us.

Hi ðlar,

Many thanks for your instructions, I was struggling to figure out how
to get this working.

Net-KGA appears to have very simple and user-friendly GUI indeed.

But currently its so gnome dependent :P

Yes, the KDE fron-end for it, KnetworkManager tool is perhaps in its
infancy, I dont think it works very well yet.

of the ideas I was impressed by, is used by tools such as
KNetworkConf. These use gnome-system-tools XML files to store the
settings and then have various "plugins" for various distributions. So
you can have the same tool work in any kind of directory structure, on
most RedHat, Debian or Slackware derived distributions.

Cheers,
Vivek

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Vivek Rai wrote:
Thanks a lot for the links.

I have downloaded both of these and trying to get them working.

The Pardus one looks very promising, but also appears to be tightly
related and dependent on some of their other config tools.

The NetworkManager based approach is certainly much more advanced way
of implementing these ideas, it seems to be using dbus and HAL, and is
also designed to be "distro-agnostic".

Let me play around with these, and see if my proposed project is
really needed after all!

I think your help will be appreciated in these projects, either with
wizards or other areas. There are many things to do there, after all :)

Good luck!

Krzysztof Lichota



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S‡Ÿlar wrote:
>The NetworkManager based approach is certainly much more advanced way
>of implementing these ideas, it seems to be using dbus and HAL, and is
>also designed to be "distro-agnostic".

But currently its so gnome dependent :P

Why do you think so?
As far as I can see it depends on glib and gcrypt.

Krzysztof Lichota



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S‡Ÿlar wrote:
Cumartesi 20 May 2006 20:38 tarihinde Ÿ± ±Ÿ±±z:
>Why do you think so?
>As far as I can see it depends on glib and gcrypt.

I think this is not related to this list but i just want to be sure;

Are we talking about the same NetworkManager [1] ? If so

the most up2date one has;



Strange, I guess these are only config checks, not necessary by built
binary:

krzysiek@ola:$ apt-cache showpkg network-manager
Package: network-manager
Versions:
0.6.2-0ubuntu7(/)(/var/lib/dpkg/status)

Reverse Depends:
network-manager-gnome,network-manager 0.5.1-0ubuntu12
network-manager-gnome,network-manager
network-manager-gnome,network-manager 0.5.1-0ubuntu12
network-manager-gnome,network-manager
network-manager-dbg,network-manager 0.6.2-0ubuntu7
knetworkmanager,network-manager 0.6.2
Dependencies:
0.6.2-0ubuntu7 - libc6 (2 2.3.4-1) libdbus-1-2 (2 0.60) libdbus-glib-1-2
(2 0.60) libgcrypt11 (2 1.2.2) libglib2.0-0 (2 2.10.0) libgpg-error0 (2
1.1) libhal1 (2 0.5) libiw28 (2 27+28pre13) libnl1-pre6 (0 (null))
libnm-util0 (0 (null)) iproute (0 (null)) ifupdown (0 (null)) dhcdbd (2
1.10-0ubuntu2) lsb-base (2 2.0-6) wpasupplicant (0 (null))
network-manager-gnome (16 (null)) network-manager-kde (0 (null))
Provides:
0.6.2-0ubuntu7 -
Reverse Provides:

Krzysztof Lichota



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