amd64 system powering down

Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 03:00:42PM -0500, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Current Max Min Avg Unit
temperature: 84.000 86.000 81.000 83.667 deg

Is that acpitz0 or coretemp?

Joerg

Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 11:34:48PM +0200, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
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Not yet. Note the system was working fine before I upgraded from Ubuntu
Linux a few days ago. (I am purposely using -current since I need some
hardware features.)
Maybee what I see on my Thinkpad T43p is something similar: Since a week
(or so) after some minutes of usage (running GENERIC) the thing becomes
more and more unresponsive, warms up (fan becomes noisy) and eventually
powers down.

What helps is using a custom kernel w/o uhci!

From dmesg:

ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7: Intel 82801FB/FR USB EHCI Controller (rev. 0x03)
ehci0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 19
ehci0: EHCI version 1.0
ehci0: wrong number of companions (4 != 0)
ehci0: ohci or uhci probably not configured
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0

Maybee there are some hardware problems with this notebook as it refuses
to reboot sometimes, but w/o uhci it's ok for normal use

Perhaps you could try a "uhci-free" kernel?

Just another shot in the dark

Kurt

Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Kurt Schreiner wrote:
Maybee what I see on my Thinkpad T43p is something similar: Since a week
(or so) after some minutes of usage (running GENERIC) the thing becomes
more and more unresponsive, warms up (fan becomes noisy) and eventually
powers down.

I have caught my laptop spinning its fan when 100% idle recently - I don't
think its the incredibly hot weather we are having :-) cf 2 stoppages
during Wimbledon final - is more work being done during the idle loop
these days?

Cheers,

Patrick

Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 11:29:35PM +0200, Patrick Welche wrote:
Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Kurt Schreiner wrote:
Maybee what I see on my Thinkpad T43p is something similar: Since a week
(or so) after some minutes of usage (running GENERIC) the thing becomes
more and more unresponsive, warms up (fan becomes noisy) and eventually
powers down.

I have caught my laptop spinning its fan when 100% idle recently - I don't
think its the incredibly hot weather we are having :-) cf 2 stoppages
during Wimbledon final - is more work being done during the idle loop
these days?
Hm, I think I've tracked my problem down to the following: Doesn't matter
what kernel I use, just switching from X11 to console via F1 brings the
notebook down in a minute or so. of the temperature sensors goes from
ca. 70 degC to over 110 degC and eventually the beast is shut down by the
BIS Switching back to X11 (while it's still running ;-) doesn't change
anything.
Graphic chip is (from scanpci):
pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1002 device 0x3154
ATI Technologies Inc M24 1T [FireGL M24 GL]

Perhaps I should try X11 from pkgsrc instead of the native one?

Kurt

Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kurt Schreiner wrote:
Hm, I think I've tracked my problem down to the following: Doesn't matter
what kernel I use, just switching from X11 to console via F1 brings the
notebook down in a minute or so. of the temperature sensors goes from
ca. 70 degC to over 110 degC and eventually the beast is shut down by the
BIS Switching back to X11 (while it's still running ;-) doesn't change
anything.
Graphic chip is (from scanpci):
pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1002 device 0x3154
ATI Technologies Inc M24 1T [FireGL M24 GL]
>
Perhaps I should try X11 from pkgsrc instead of the native one?

does top show anything working harder?

iain

Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:37:41AM +0200, Iain Hibbert wrote:
Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Kurt Schreiner wrote:
Hm, I think I've tracked my problem down to the following: Doesn't matter
what kernel I use, just switching from X11 to console via F1 brings the
notebook down in a minute or so. of the temperature sensors goes from
ca. 70 degC to over 110 degC and eventually the beast is shut down by the
BIS Switching back to X11 (while it's still running ;-) doesn't change
anything.
Graphic chip is (from scanpci):
pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1002 device 0x3154
ATI Technologies Inc M24 1T [FireGL M24 GL]
>
Perhaps I should try X11 from pkgsrc instead of the native one?

does top show anything working harder?
Doesn't look like:

load averages: 0.07, 0.02, 0.01 up 0 days, 2:01 12:02:29
47 processes: 45 sleeping, 1 stopped, 1 on CPU
CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle
Memory: 116M Act, 6824K Wired, 16M Exec, 28M File, 1858M Free
Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free

PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU CMMAND
316 root 95 0 1780K 22M select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% XFree86
3192 ks 63 0 752K 1240K CPU 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top
0 root 96 0 0K 16M actwat 0:00 0.00% 0.00% [system]
146 named 95 0 2784K 12M select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% named
337 root 95 0 6564K 8272K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% squid
346 squid 95 0 2784K 7508K netio 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl
502 root 95 0 3808K 6224K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd
278 ntpd 95 0 1780K 5664K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ntpd
2849 root 95 0 764K 3428K netio 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd
643 root 95 0 764K 3396K netio 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd
645 www 95 0 3808K 2728K kqueue 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd

Sysstat shows:

2 users Load 0.00 0.00 0.00 Mon Jul 7 12:05:31

Proc:r d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt PAGING SWAPPING
15 26 68 4 29 in out in out
ops
0.0% Sy 0.0% Us 0.0% Ni 0.0% In 100.0% Id pages
| | | | | | | | | | |
forks
fkppw
memory totals (in kB) 4 Interrupts fksvm
real virtual free ioapic0 pin 9 pwait
Active 119636 119636 1902424 ioapic0 pin 1 relck
All 152264 152264 10291028 ioapic0 pin 12 rlkok
4 ioapic0 pin 16 noram
Namei Sys-cache Proc-cache ioapic0 pin 14 ndcpy
Calls hits % hits % fltcp
6 6 100 zfod
cow
Disks: wd0 64 fmin
seeks 85 ftarg
xfers itarg
bytes 1706 wired
%busy pdfre
pdscn

temperature is going up:

>-835: envstat | grep degC
temperature: 44.000 degC
TEMP_1: 47.000 degC
TEMP_2: 47.000 degC
TMP0: 44.000 degC
TMP1: 47.000 degC
TMP2: 36.000 degC
TMP3: 107.000 degC

It's quite "fesh" here today w/ open windows so no forced powerdown until now

But I can see a similar effect (temperature going high, but not above ca. 98 degC)
when XFree86 has something to do - for example heavy scrolling while a build.sh
is running

Kurt

Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 09:54:28PM +0200, Michael van Elst wrote:
Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 09:46:49PM +0200, Kurt Schreiner wrote:

I think I'll open the case and have a look at the "cooling infrastructure".

Visit thinkwiki.org first :)
Yep! Just reading Even while knowing the service manual quite well
there's a wagon load of really interesting new (for me ;) information.

Kurt